
Finanzfluss|23. Aug.
What happens in the worst case with your MSCI World ETF?
Introduction
- This video examines the worst-case scenarios for your MSCI World ETF, showing that in most historical cases, investors' money was not permanently lost.
- Segregated assets (Sondervermögen): The fund's assets are kept separate from the issuer's. In case of bankruptcy, your money remains protected.
- Example Lehman Brothers: The fund management company was sold; investors lost nothing. Losses occurred only with certificates (debt securities).
- Important: In Europe, ETFs are legally segregated assets, but ETNs are not.
- Ownership: Your securities belong to you; the broker only manages them. In a bankruptcy, you can transfer them to another broker.
- Examples:
- Bowfor Securities (UK): Chaotic insolvency, but almost all positions were recovered.
- Phoenix Kapitaldienst (DE): Fraud (Ponzi scheme). Investors received 90% of their claim (max. €20,000) from the compensation fund plus 36% from the bankruptcy estate – but only after 10 years.
- Misconception: The €100,000 deposit protection applies only to current accounts. For securities, reduced protection (90% up to €20,000) applies only in cases of fraud.
- No capital loss, but a taxable event: Gains are taxed prematurely, reducing overall returns.
- Example: Amundi closed several ETFs after acquiring Lyxor.
- You cannot prevent this, but such events are rare.
- Historical Worst Cases:
- Lisa (fictional): Invested €50,000 in 2000 → after the dot-com crash and financial crisis, she faced -58 % over 10 years. Mistake: investing money needed for a short-term goal (real estate).
- Germany 1913–1948: Drawdown of -70 % (wars, hyperinflation, currency reform). Additionally, many investors lost their assets because paper stock certificates were destroyed or ownership was unprovable.
- Japan 1989–present: Three lost decades with a maximum loss of -60 %. Recovery took over 30 years.
- Lesson: Only invest money you can afford to leave untouched for 10–15 years. Global diversification helps (e.g., US stocks performed better during Germany's crisis).
- In prolonged crises (Japan, dot-com crash), a savings plan can yield positive returns by buying at low prices.
- Calculations:
- Lump sum of €50,000 in Japan after 30 years: 0 % return.
- Same amount via a savings plan over time: 4 % annual return.
- Lisa would have achieved a 6 % annual return with a savings plan instead of a loss.
- Caution: Long-term, a lump sum investment is usually better because markets tend to rise. The examples above are exceptions.
- Worst-case scenarios are possible but rare.
- Protective measures: Ensure segregated assets, keep deposit documents safe, invest for the long term, use a savings plan.
- Additional resource: Video analyzing lump sum vs. savings plan.






